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LoloXIII, Tu es sûr que j'ai dit que je n'aimais pas ? Parce que je ne me souviens pas l'avoir dit
Je ne connais pas en fait, mais si c'est du même acabit que Cars, je doute que cela m'intéresse.
Ou alors tu cherchais quelqu'un pour débattre avec toi de cette œuvre ?

[loloXIII]

Ah excuse-moi !
Je pensais que c'était toi qui m'avait dit ça, mais ce n'est visiblement pas toi.
Je voulais juste savoir pourquoi le membre concerné n'aimait pas Plane.

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Pas grave . Mais après, c'est vrai que j'ai vu la bande annonce seulement et que l'aspect est très moderne par rapport aux autres dessins animés que j'ai cités. Mais peut-être que je me fais vieux aussi 

[Dr. Nick]

Pas grave . Mais après, c'est vrai que j'ai vu la bande annonce seulement et que l'aspect est très moderne par rapport aux autres dessins animés que j'ai cités. Mais peut-être que je me fais vieux aussi 

[simpsonsbart]

Comme tout un chacun, j'ai été moi-même petite enfant. A environ 6-7 ans, je regardais sur France 5 Debout les Zouzous. Evidemment, j'ai vite grandi, comme tout jeune enfant, et pas plus tard que 2006, je suis passée à Gulli. Et croyez-moi, Gulli, ça a été pour moi jusqu'à 2011, voire 2012. C'est grâce à cette chaîne que j'ai su que Pokémon n'avait pas qu'un seul film et 3 Saisons, car j'avais justement regardé un épisode du début de la Saison 8 (je ne sais pas de quand il date en France pour la 1ère fois, mais je pense que Gulli n'était pas la 1ère chaîne à diffuser cet épisode, et il s'agissait d'Un petit tour de navette).

Oui, j'ai connu Gulli Land, le Podium Gulli, Grrrr... et Grrrr!, Gullia, Télé grenadine, etc. J'ai même connu le jingle "Tacatacatacata"! J'ai connu le changement de 2010 et la transformation du G, et je me suis arrêtée en 2011 ou 2012. J'ai connu le chuchotement "Gulli" dans les interludes, et je ne sais par contre pas de quand date les interludes avec les enfants qui jouent et où c'est marqué "Publicité" sur de la peinture...

Donc oui, j'ai passé la fin de mon enfance et ma préadolescence sur Gulli...

[paolo98]

Je viens de passer une heure à me faire des épisodes des Looney Tunes ... c'est tellement génial putain ! Les indétrônables Bip-bip et Coyote, Daffy Duck, Bugs Bunny ... je suis aussi passé par la case des Tex Avery et quelques Panthère Rose. Je suis d'ailleurs retombé sur la propagande anti-nazie des Trois petits cochons, avec du recul c'est spécial quand même.

Bref, ça m'a rappelé mes vieilles cassettes. Quels bons souvenirs tiens !

[Maurry Christmas!]

Je viens de passer une heure à me faire des épisodes des Looney Tunes ... c'est tellement génial putain ! Les indétrônables Bip-bip et Coyote, Daffy Duck, Bugs Bunny ... je suis aussi passé par la case des Tex Avery et quelques Panthère Rose. Je suis d'ailleurs retombé sur la propagande anti-nazie des Trois petits cochons, avec du recul c'est spécial quand même.

Bref, ça m'a rappelé mes vieilles cassettes. Quels bons souvenirs tiens !

Ouais, le premier épisode de Tex Avery !

[Dr. Nick]

On parle de cartoons? J'ARRIIIIIIIIVE!

J'ai quelques DVD de Looney Tunes et Tom et Jerry que je regarde très souvent, et c'est bien que tu t'y sois remis aussi Paolo, je ne peux que te plussoyer. Et oui, en plus, la propagande anti nazis n'était pas limité à l'excellent Blitz Wolf de Tex Avery, c'était très courant dans les cartoons de l'époque. "C'est pour les enfants", hein?

D'ailleurs Maurice, Blitz Wolf n'est pas le premier Tex Avery, il en a réalisé plusieurs sous la Warner avant d'arriver à la MGM.

[Dr. Nick]

Aujourd'hui sans explication j'avais envie de voir un dessin animé (vous savez, les pulsions, tout ça...) et j'ai choisi Les Animaniacs, série que j'ai probablement connu étant jeune mais si tel est le cas dont je n'avais plus de souvenirs et que j'avais envie de sérieusement découvrir. Ça tombe bien, je suis un immense fan des cartoons en général.

Que dire ? Rien que le générique m'a filé la pêche. Il m'a d'ailleurs rappelé celui des Tiny Toons, autre série que j'adore.

Dieu que j'ai ri pendant les 20 minutes. Y a rien à faire, j'ai beau connaître toutes les ficelles du cartoon, je me marre toujours comme un gosse face aux gags qui s'enchaînent à un rythme fou ("Plantez-vous sur le fauteuil", je vous jure que j'ai explosé ). L'esprit cartoon est totalement respecté, entre la musique, les bruitages très récurrents chez les Looney Tunes, les gags visuels, les expressions totalement délirantes des personnages... En plus une chanson très sympa et en guise de troisième acte une introduction (pas subtile du tout mais très drôle) des différents personnages de la série. Et puis la VF déchire (Benoît Allemane, Michel Mella, Pierre Hatet, Patrick Préjean...).

Je ressors à peine du premier épisode et j'ai déjà envie de voir la suite tellement j'ai adoré.

[paolo98]

Est devenu :

[Dr. Nick]

Merci Netflix... Sérieux, il y a des dessins animés auxquels il ne faut pas toucher aujourd'hui, et l'Inspecteur Gadget en fait partie. J'ai des doutes sur la qualité de cette nouvelle version. Mais vraiment. (Et puis bon dieu, la tête de Sophie )

[Maurry Christmas!]

J'ai vu ça. C'est vraiment n'importe quoi ce remake. Surtout le générique des premiers épisodes qui est un remix du superbe générique culte de Inspector Gadget.

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J'ai regardé les Supers Nanas ce main, des épisodes en VF que je n'avais jamais vus.

[Maurry Christmas!]

One ticket to Feeladelphia please

Y'a vraiment trop d'émotions dans une seule vidéo , en plus, y'a le moment où tu te rends compte que les personnes qui font la voix à Pinky and The Brain ont eux aussi pleurer en faisant cette scène

[Maurry Christmas!]

J'ai trouvé cet article vraiment génial qui clarifie tellement bien la qualité de Bob l'éponge à partir de la saison 4.

Spongebob Squarepants. The centerpiece of Nickelodeon, The universal cartoon. The Garfield of television. There was once a time when almost everybody, child and adult, could unify in watching what was once credited by many as the greatest cartoon of all time.
And then tragedy struck.
After season three, Spongebob Squarepants had its own movie, which went so far as to be shown in theatres. For many, the movie marks the end of the golden age of Spongebob.
After the movie, Spongebob's creator, Stephen Hillenburg, resigned as the producer, and a man named Derek Drymon took the reins, and with that shift came many new writers. This would turn out to be a dire mistake. Not for them, no; Spongebob is as profitable as ever. It was a mistake that would cost the world one of its favorite programs.
It all comes down to one main problem: flanderization; The act of taking a single (often minor) action or trait of a character within a work and exaggerating it more and more over time until it completely consumes the character. Most always, the trait/action becomes completely outlandish and it becomes their defining characteristic. This defines Spongebob to the letter, and anyone minus little children should be able to see why.
Let's start with the show's titular character, Spongebob Squarepants. The Spongebob of the first three seasons would be described as "innocent, misguided, kind". Spongebob was intelligent yet misguided. He was a character you couldn't help but like.
And then came the new writers, and Spongebob went from "intelligent yet misguided" to "too stupid to live". He became an idiot. A moron. Completely oblivious to everything around him. Unlikable. Where before there was a humorous understanding of his antics, now every fiber of his character is cringe-worthy, and the points in the show meant to be a particularly stupid moment for Spongebob's character will leave you shaking your head and changing the channel.
Spongebob became what Patrick started as. Think of the ice cream bar scene from the movie. Basically, Spongebob, saddened at not getting the position of manager for the Krusty Krab 2, goes to an ice cream parlor where he and Patrick become what can only be described as drunk off ice cream.
Now imagine that scene going on for ten years, in every single episode. You have now pictured the new Spongebob. The new Spongebob doesn't have good ideas; the new Spongebob only gets lucky when his own horrible decisions don't completely screw things up.
Spongebob winking and giving a thumbs-up Before: Innocent, misguided
"Drunk" Spongebob and Patrick; the Goofy Goober After: Completely and utterly retarded
Of course, nobody can forget Patrick, Spongebob's hilarious best friend. Stupid, but intelligent enough to know what's going on. "Misguided", again, would describe him; he helped Spongebob with his problems, came up with ideas, and was smart enough to be a lovable character.
And then came the new writers. Patrick remained himself, minus the offbeat intelligence and magnified a thousand-fold. Patrick is now, like Spongebob, too dumb to live. He is a constant drudge on the viewer; not contributing anything. He never says anything even remotely intelligent.
Oh wait, that's not entirely true. Before, when Patrick said anything actually smart, it wasn't played for laughs. Patrick's moments of genius were not meant to be jokes. In the later seasons, the only time Patrick says anything even remotely intelligent is when it's played for laughs. I, along with many other former fans, am not laughing.
Patrick telling the Ugly Barnicle story Before: Misguided, offbeat
Patrick with a board nailed to is forehead, hammer in hand After: Completely and utterly retarded
And we all know Squidward, the anti-hero of the series. The early Squidward was somebody you sympathized with; he hated his job, he hated his life, and he never hesitated to crack a joke and literally wrinkle his nose in laughter. He was somebody you love to hate, yet you could understand why he acted the way he did. Squidward was a jerk, but we couldn't help love him.
And then came the new writers. Are you familiar with the "eyes half closed" look, the look that means "contempt" or "disinterest"?
Garfield in his pajamas That's the one.
Get used to that look, because from season four onwards, the only time Squidward won't be using that look is when he is surprised. And the only two emotions you'll see Squidward using are disinterest and surprise. Even anger, Squidward's unofficial trademark, will appear less and less as time goes on. Squidward has fewer lines, he makes fewer jokes, and you can't relate to him Whereas before you wanted to give him a hug, now you want to ignore him like he's ignoring us. Squidward is just there, if that. Sure, occasionally he does show signs of having a personality, and now and again he makes a bad joke, but those moments are so few and far between that they hardly exist. And even when Squidward is showing emotion, he does it so...so hollow. You can tell it's not the same squid we all know and love.
Squidward Before: Contempt, wittiness, understandable misery
Squidward
After: Disinterest, rare and hollow sparks of emotion
The penultimate character I'll analyze is Mr. Krabs, Spongebob's and Squidward's money-grubbing boss. Back in the golden years, Mr. Krabs personality could be described with three loves: Money, his daughter, and a friendship with the other characters. Mr. Krabs obviously cared for the other characters and thought of them as friends, or something like it.
And then came the new writers, and all of a sudden, two of the three loves are gone. Mr. Krabs does not care for his daughter. Mr. Krabs does not care for the other characters. Instead, the love of money consumes and consumes Mr. Krabs until that is literally his entire personality: the guy who likes money. In one episode featuring Spongebob trying to convince Pearl, Mr. Krabs's daughter to let him stay at a slumber party, he somehow causes an explosion made of root beer. Mr. Krabs rushes in walks right past his daughter in the stereotypical death face (XP), and mourns the loss of his newspaper collection. The fact that he walks right past his hurt daughter is played for laughs. And in one later episode, Mr. Krabs is singing about how much he loves money. He looks through a photo album full of pictures of Pearl's childhood, and then sings "every sight I've ever seen, every sound I've heard, I'd gladly give up everything for all the money that I've earned!" That's not the Mr. Krabs of the early seasons. Not by a long shot.
Mr. Krabs Before: Love of money, family, and friends
Mr. Krabs with a sack of money After: Love of money And finally, we have Sandy Cheeks, one of three female characters and Spongebob's mammalian friend. Sandy was introduced as a smart voice of reason with a love of science and karate, the latter being the main reason Sandy is friends with Spongebob.
And then came the new writers, and Sandy all but disappeared. She appeared less and less, and went form being a major character to a minor character, and now it's a rare treat just for her to appear.
And, of course, they couldn't leave it at that. While they could have just spared her character and left her to die in the annals of Spongebob history, 90% of the times she appears her scientific side dominates. It dominates her active martial arts trait and then some, constantly trying to eat up every other aspect of her character. Her scientific side is pushed to extremes, and right when her destroyed personality begins to wear on the viewer, she is cast into the void and doesn't appear until the planets align again.
Hilariously, the fact that she is all-but nonexistent is even evident to Spongebob; in a recent Earth Day special, Spongebob identifies Sandy as "Sandy Squirrel". Don't worry Spongebob; we didn't remember her name either.
Sandy Cheeks Before: Active, smart, voice of reason
After: Who's "Sandy"?
Don't let my lack of mentioning other characters make you think they survived; no, each and every actual character was slaughtered. Plankton is terribly one-sided and stupid despite somehow building inventions and coming up with plans. Karen, Plankton's computer wife, evolved into a stereotypical nagging housewife. Mrs. Puff, Spongebob's boating teacher, has a personality centered around hating Spongebob. Again hilariously, Spongebob alludes to the fact that Larry the Lobster hardly exists when Larry asks "have we met?" and Spongebob replies "probably not" in a somewhat recent episode.
Even the go-to background characters, the random fish, have become shells of their former collective selves, their intelligence dropping just as fast as the main characters', if not much, much faster.
And once you get past the characters, you have what remains of a plot. Before, there was no predicting what was to happen; Spongebob and co. get trapped in a forest, Spongebob tries to impress Sandy at the beach, Spongebob starts a bubble blowing stand. The variety was endless and no two episodes, it seemed, were alike.
And then came the new writers, and it seems each and every recent episode can be summed up in one of three ways:
-Spongebob works at the Krusty Krab -Spongebob and Patrick annoy Squidward -Spongebob and Patrick go jellyfishing
When an episode breaks from the terrible mold, we do have creative plots, but rare creativity doesn't save the show.
Finally, perhaps the worst change in the series comes with the writing itself. There are fewer jokes and more needless pandering to children. When Spongebob isn't acting like a three-year-old, he's doing something idiotic or making a joke that not even toddlers would find funny. The show, in a way, talks down to the audience; the writers don't seem to even try to fill Spongebob's enormous and, recently, overrated shoes. The writing is lazy, the jokes constantly fall flat, and, for the love of all this is holy, they forget their own characters' names.
And as if to add insult to injury, the amount of body horror in the show has skyrocketed. Recent episodes have featured Squidward's toenail being violently ripped off, Spongebob and Patrick removing their own corneas (with holes in their eyes where they used to be, complete with flesh inside), Squidward accidentally combining every character into a hideous blob of flesh with the character's limbs sticking out and twitching, Squidward fixing up Mermaid Man and Barnacle Boy, featuring grotesque close-ups, Spongebob getting a splinter that oozes with green puss and swells up to the size of a house, and much, much more. The direction the series has taken seems much more...crude and immature. The toenail-removing scene is so disgusting that I can't even bring myself to watch it. I have gone so far as to change the channel so I don't have to see or hear it as Squidward screams in agony.
Spongebob used to be hilarious in the eyes of almost everyone who watched it. It was "cool" to like Spongebob. Everyone did it, everyone loved it, and things couldn't have been better. Whereas now, Spongebob has been corralled into the same appalling pen as every other child-pandering abomination. Admitting to liking Spongebob these days will no longer result in the "I know, right?". No, it will result in criticism equal to that of admitting to watching a preschool-level show. You can even try it yourself. Adults, rightfully, do not like Spongebob anymore. Try and see; if I'm wrong, then at least I know there is a huge chunk missing form Spongebob's fanbase, left there when I, along with many others, moved on to another television show.
And yet, Spongebob will not die.

Disons que je suis moyennement d'accord sur sa partie sur Squidward, car selon moi c'est le seul qui est resté dans la même émotion, mais ils l'ont cartoonisé à mort, ce qui le rend aujourd'hui aucunement reliable mais juste un ''anti-héro'' dans la série, en gros un salaud just for the sake of being un salaud.